Good points EA, now you mention it, it was disturbing. I used to wince and metaphorically shake my head at these atrocities but stupidly accepted that's what it was like back then.
JWs are taught not to bring their brain into the KH..............
Half banana
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Biblical incidents that bothered me.
by EverApostate ini wanted to discuss the (supposed) biblical events that disturbed me a lot when i was a jw.
these incidents were just read and discussed in the kingdom hall as if these are normal and justified, which clearly weren't.
perhaps this led to my awakening.
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Watchtower Loses an Appeal
by TerryWalstrom inpublication court of appeal, fourth appellate district division one state of california osbaldo padron, plaintiff and respondent, v. watchtower bible and tract society of new york, inc., defendant and appellant.findingwatchtower has abused the discovery process.
it has zealously advocated its position and lost multiple times.
yet, it cavalierly refuses to acknowledge the consequences of these losses and the validity of the court's orders requiring it to produce documents in response to request number 12. and, in a further act of defiance, watchtower informed the court that it would not comply with the march 25, 2016 order 39 requiring it to produce documents responsive to request number 12. the court, following lopez, supra, 246 cal.app.4th 566, as an incremental step toward terminating sanctions if watchtower persists in its unjustified conduct, imposed monetary sanctions.
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Half banana
This arrogant cult imagines it is above the law. I'm pleased the court has noticed this and commented on their cavalier attitude. For this they are being punished, very satisfactory!
Also note that the WT is described as "recalcitrant" and their lawyers are clearly ineffectual by repeating failed arguments. (Just like JWs do on the doors!)
Does anyone else think as I do that they are beginning to act as if nothing matters any more?
Have they seen the writing on the wall?
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2 witness rule
by punkofnice ini'm gobsmacked.. the 7 rock star popes in warwick know darned well that the 2 witness rule allows child rapists to get away with their crime.. geoff (whacko jacko) jackson was at the australian royal commission and should have seen first hand what a vile man made law the 2 witness rule is.. my question is, why do they still insist on this pervert protecting rule?.
i know it's a highly controlling cult but still...........................stuff my old boots, mate!.
the above is more a rhetorical question.
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Half banana
The two witness rule is an OT rule. Since when do they literally apply OT rules? Only when it suits them is the answer.
We do know there have been practising homosexuals in the GB (nothing wrong with being homosexual except that the Bible and the Watchtower don’t approve). There might have been a heterosexual paedophile, we don’t know. So it could well be that to cover up some reprehensible incidents right there at or near the top of the organisation they had to come up with a story or a red herring. The OT laws gave them a loophole. Whether this is the case or not, “two witnesses” is a get off the hook ploy.
@ Conceptual, I agree with you. The really shabby behaviour is from the GB themselves because of their total lack of genuine care for the abused. Normal considerate caring organisations would know that to try and help those who have suffered means extensive professional psychological help even if it cost millions.
Of course they know that professional counsellors would strongly discourage anyone having anything to do with mind-bending cults like JWs—and quite rightly so.
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chapter 39 New Boy 50 years a Watchtower Slave
by new boy inchapter 39. i’m glad i don’t believe the way you do!.
your whole life becomes a blur.
weeks turn into months.
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Half banana
I really enjoy your experiences of JW life New boy.
I liked the bit about the householder and the son he wouldn't have had if he had been a good JW. It goes to show how our response to witnesses calling at our door can be important in waking them up .
As you show the religion plays with the mind of the members not to mention that the congregations are full of unstable people who for their sanity cling to the false comfort of paradise. To make matters worse they are discouraged from getting the effective treatment they need.
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Can all 7 members of the Governing Body ride in this elevator at the same time?
by Alfred inin case the picture didn't load.... i'm referring to an elevator with a (quite common) weight capacity of 1,500 lbs.. would the 7 members of the governing body exceed this weight limit??
david splane: 195 pounds.
stephen lett: 205 pounds.
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Half banana
Imagine..............
Tragic news, freak elevator accident kills off entire governing body of Jehovah’s Witnesses.
Engineers point to overloading but police have not ruled out sabotage.
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Mid 80's quote on 1934 not being start of the Last Days
by wizzstick incan anyone remember this?.
in a mid-80s i seem to remember a publication with a box on a page.. inside the box it was saying something like 'some have wondered if 1934 could be the correct starting date, if 587bce was the fall of jerusalem.
but history has shown it was 1914'.. does this ring any bells?.
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Half banana
I find it interesting that no one had the sense to question the validity of the original text. It was a story to promote a political situation on the middle of the 2nd century BCE. There is no such thing as "Seven times".
At the start of a discussion you have know whether you are reading facts or fiction..............
I also enjoy the magisterial authority referred to to give "convincing evidence to support 607 BCE" as the pivotal date. Wow! it was none other than Jehovah's Witnesses in their 1981 publication Let Your Kingdom Come. Well that settles it then!
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Another boa, another pig!
by Slidin Fast ini was just thinking about the way dubs are required to swallow huge indigestible lumps of “spiritual” food without question like a boa swallows a pig.. our batch had the "overlapping generation" presented amongst many other travesties.
the gb looked us in the eye and dared us not to swallow it whole, don’t complain about indigestion just take it.. can you imagine though being told, post 1914, that the awaited kingdom, christ in all his glory had already happened.
it happened just as foretold.
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Half banana
JWs must be a collection of people who have decided to let others think for them. Thinking is such a demanding job!
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Picture in latest Watchtower . . . What is it?
by neat blue dog inin this picture from the latest watchtower, what in the world is the guy watching on the left side of the picture??
it looks like a female vampire holding a lightsaber.
am i missing something?.
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I love the contrast of the world represented by Star Wars symbols on the left and the Watchtower's Orwellian dystopia being subliminally flashed at every opportunity with the JW logo on the right.
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JW leadership hypocrisy 1975
by Half banana init is felt that there is one law for the rich and another for the little people who are made to toe the line.
money equals power and it is a sad historical fact of humanity that where there is power there is abuse.. andersoninfo a few days ago produced the facts here that in 1975 the watchtower had spent nearly 2 million dollars to buy the neo baroque building in new york known as the towers.
when they sold it recently for 200 million dollars they made a profit of more than 10,000%.
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Half banana
Yes people who don't think deeply can keep returning to pat the same dog which keeps biting them.
I am not attempting to indict any individual, it is the JW culture which is an enormous confidence trick being played on millions of decent people by the GB: offering everlasting life to the poor and less educated, demanding they don't get educated and instead waste their lives on a snake oil religion lured by a never to be realized promise.
It is a scam, like early Christianity was and the men responsible today are those at the top of the corporate JW tree. They perpetuate the deception because without a doubt the GB are the only obvious beneficiaries-- however ordinary their lives actually are. Consider them: the prestige of being CEOs, adulation from the flock, property security, health care, plenty of first class international travel to exotic places, no material concerns at all!
Contrast this with the common flock of Jehovah's Witnesses, they are constantly reminded of their role, idealized in relentless Watchtower propaganda as a lowly self sacrificing uneducated drone, whilst giving their very lives to the JW org. The little people have to work hard often in menial jobs, they do not receive free housing to a five star hotel standard, they have to earn their keep and they must do what they are told.
However, whether a member of the privileged GB or a mere little person, no witness has ever nor will ever in the future be given the rewards promised by the organisation.
All who consider themselves to be a Jehovah's Witness except the governing body, are haplessly embroiled in a life wasting scam.
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JW leadership hypocrisy 1975
by Half banana init is felt that there is one law for the rich and another for the little people who are made to toe the line.
money equals power and it is a sad historical fact of humanity that where there is power there is abuse.. andersoninfo a few days ago produced the facts here that in 1975 the watchtower had spent nearly 2 million dollars to buy the neo baroque building in new york known as the towers.
when they sold it recently for 200 million dollars they made a profit of more than 10,000%.
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Half banana
My main point Steve was that in 1975 it was urging the flock to give up worldly interests and pioneer instead because it was "the end of the system of things". The leaders however carried on ploughing money into property instead of using it to urgently get the message to the remoter parts of the world. Their actions belied their teaching.